Well hey at least they were cool and didn't try to guilt you or anything. Call us if you need some encouragement........that is about as easy as you can get it. Good job!
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2 elders just came to my door. I smiled and told them no.
by schnell innot playing their game, as i've learned here.
they came to my door to find me with a full beard and a nightmare before christmas hoody, playing a video game where the characters "do not act according to bible principles", and i happily answered the door.
i simply smiled and told them no when they asked if i have a minute.
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So getting disfellowshipped sounds kind of great.
by schnell ini grew up in this religion, i was baptized at 14, married at 27, and now i'm 31. i'm also evolutionist and atheist.
i wanted this to be the truth.
i spent years as an apologist trying to reconcile everything.
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Welcome Schnell.
Plus I don't want you to underestimate the powerful feeling you get when you simply tell the guys not to come to your house. You are not used to saying no (politely), and they sure aren't used to hearing it. I remember the brothers asking to come by, andI said no thanks guys.....hows the build over on __ street? Yeah? Great to hear...ok guys I need to get back to work, so say hi to the wives and hope you guys are good. *click
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You know how its hard to get JW's to publicly admit what they really believe?
by problemaddict 2 in...well not with this person.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49vau8xcmsa&google_comment_id=z13lvfhzisrqybs5y04chvt5brmduhcrivg0k.
ht commenting on this video is mad honest.
among the greatest hit are knowing 99% of the world will die, and that she "won't miss them one bit"!
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...well not with this person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49vaU8xcmSA&google_comment_id=z13lvfhzisrqybs5y04chvt5brmduhcrivg0kHT commenting on this video is mad honest. Among the greatest hit are knowing 99% of the world will die, and that she "won't miss them one bit"!
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FYI, Eloise Dupuis, 27, a JW, died last Wednesday in a Quebec hospital because she refused a blood transfusion
by AndersonsInfo ini just received the following message from a friend this morning.. barbara.
eloise dupuis, 27 years old, died at the hotel dieu hospital in lévis, quebec, canada, wednesday, october 12th.
she died because of her religious principles.
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Ugh. Heartbreaking to think I used to vigorously defend this belief. The fact it happens so much but goes unreported, only feeds the delusion that this doesn't happen anymore and "blood is bad for you".
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Evolution Gap - Where's the Fur?
by shadow inevolution paints human ancestors covered with fur.
fur has several benefits as stated by britannica "the pelts of fur-bearing animals are called true furs when they consist of two elements: a dense undercoat, called ground hair, and longer hairs, extending beyond that layer, called guard hair.
the principal function of ground hair is to maintain the animal’s body temperature; that of guard hair is to protect the underlying fur and skin and to shed rain or snow.".
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Jacob, I'm new to this to a certain extent, but consider that the mating ball of snakes is most likely not actually 10k, simply because it could possibly be picked up by 10k snakes. In addition, this mating ritual continues with all female snakes of the breed. So it isn't a a matter of best snake gets the girl.....natural selection wins! It's a slow moving process over many many breeding cycles.
Regarding fur/hair, I'm actually most interested why we retain any. In particular as I approach my late 30's, why does it want to disappear from my head, and make its way to my earlobe?
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How many JWs actually died in Nazi camps
by dogon inthe jws have tried to pad the number of jws in camps.
how many actually went and how many died?
can you site the source also?
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SBF,
I don't think the intent is to denigrate the clear heroic defiance as you put it by many individuals. The reason....is almost immaterial in my mind. I think the issue is that the perception, and of course the narrative coming from the branch is that as a group JW's were this massive united affront that nobody could quite understand because they could just walk out of there if they signed a piece of paper.
that is certainly what i once believed.
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How many JWs actually died in Nazi camps
by dogon inthe jws have tried to pad the number of jws in camps.
how many actually went and how many died?
can you site the source also?
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Dietlieb Felderer....jailed in Sweden?
This guy doesn't quite seem like the most reliable source of information.
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Lying In Wait At a Bed & Breakfast
by Cold Steel ina few years ago while traveling in the northeast, my wife and i stopped in new haven, connecticut, at a b&b we'd reserved for the night.
no sooner had we unpacked and moved into the living room for tea and treats, our hosts began to talk about religion, and we learned they were jehovah's witnesses.
i didn't mind so much, but my wife was outraged that our hosts would use their place of business as a launching point to do missionary work.
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Cold steel,
This seems like the easiest thing in the world to fix. Let me Demonstrate.
"Oh you are Jehovahs Witnesse? I used to be too, until I learned about the...
(choose one)
- ...inconsistencies in the blood doctrine leading to the loss of life by the thousands and the elevating of the symbol of life above life itself
- ...issues with the governing body placing the supposed reputation of the org above protection of children and society at large. Have you seen the ARC hearings?
- ...fact that 1914 is just a number after 1913 and holds no biblical significance
- ...shunning policy being the exact opposite of what Jesus taught in the story of the prodigal son, and this communal shunning program is used as a control mechanism and emotional blackmail as brought out by the outright encouragement to kick out and shun ones own daughter, if they are not a stellar JW like in the convension video....
BUT......I certainly would not want to affect your faith negatively, so its probably best to leave your religion off the topic of conversation list. Hey! These doilies are amazing? Where did you get them?"
- ...inconsistencies in the blood doctrine leading to the loss of life by the thousands and the elevating of the symbol of life above life itself
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Elders and Attendants sing, clap and turn backs on Street Preacher after Duluth RC.
by ToesUp invery strange behavior by the attendants and elders after the duluth, ga, rc.
on the first link the attendants start to exit the arena, then line up and turn their backs on the street preachers.
(around the 6:00 mark).. elders and attendants after duluth rc.
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Ugh.
Lets be real. Conventions are boring. these guys lives are boring. this is their little "treat" to do something exciting for them.
This guy with the amplifier succeeded in doing the opposite that he probably wished to. He fed into their persecution complex perfectly. Well done moron.
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what a wonderful site!
by scruffmcbuff inive been reading through this forum for a while and thought i should contribute!.
so im df, i was very involved regular pioneer for several years and i slowly started to wake up.. my exprience of leaving is horendous and contains alot of shocking (but apparently not that rare in the orgs) judicials and various encounters with the elders.. ive been out 10 years now and at 27 loving life!
running a succesful business and dont all thay materialistic stuff thata frowned apon, like providing my wife and kids with a nice car and house!
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Hey Scruff. Welcome to the board. It can be hard to find people that 100% understand how your world view as a JW at one time continues to affect you, and shape the rest of your life once you are free. It can really be nice to have that in common with others.
I can't wait to hear your story. So you left when you were 17. Yikes!